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kshandja



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Need feedback on new indie game ZoX Universe Reply with quote

Hi,
i found this forum and it looks like a perfect place for this.
My friend and i made this little game ZoX Universe - Space arena,
and now we would like to have your opinion on it.

And whats the better place for it then forums like this.

Here is the sample
Teaser


Please, give us your comments and opinions. It would means a lot to us.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks like Bomberman on a platter. :-)
Is there no online/network mode available? PC games are usually played on separate machines...

You website is missing a description of what this game is about. I could guess watching the videos. But it's really hard to tell what's going on watching 5x5 pixels wide dots moving around and splatter milk everywhere or something like that.



PS: There is no leading blank before a punctuation mark in the English language.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't work properly with my Microsoft X360 USB pad under windowsXP - this could be a major issue as it's becoming the standard* pad of the PC.

The game kicked me to a buy nag screen within 20seconds of playing - that can't be right surely?

Cute look, I like it Smile

Not sure how well it will sell, multi-player only and requires a pad is a bit limiting. Feels like a mini-game or something you'd download on WiiWare - or is there a lot more to it? I only saw it in 20second increments Smile Shame it isn't in a browser as then you could just give it away for free, wrap adverts around it and put together some kind of online league.

Could do with some bots so that a prospective customer could give it a try on his own and if he likes it get a few friends together.

You should add support for one of the players to use the mouse, I think that is vital.

Add the option to skip that intro animation by pressing a key or mouse button or pad button.

Can it run in a window - full screen is less popular for more casual type games - lets you play it at work without the boss finding out Wink.

*standard means it's quite common amongst the 1% of PC owners who have any kind of joystick or game pad.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it looks like it could be fun, but I had no fun whatsoever playing the demo (sorry to sound harsh) because it just times out so quickly I couldn't work out what was going on.

I'm a big bomberman fan, but I couldn't work out what the strategy to this game was in such short a time. Perhaps there isn't one and it's more about just lobbing bombs at each other? Seemed weird that you could throw over crates, thus defeating the point of them (unless I've missed the point and this is nothing like bomberman?)

Maybe look at getting it on somewhere like instantaction.com ?

Would definitely look into the idea of making it a free online game with perhaps buyable avatars, otherwise I can't fathom how to sell it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Slyh
Yes your right, it is some kind of 3d bomberman.

The first idea was that we make a single computer multiplayer game
for us to play when we get together, to have fun, to laugh, like when
watching football game on tv.

Now there are lots of games, that can be played over the internet with
people you dont know, never seen. So we wanted something different.

We made the demo, that last just 45 sec, and then it gets you back to credit
screen and buy option, and with simple ESC button you can get back to game. We had an issue about the length of the demo and i lost it.
I wanted to make it longer Sad


@ Poo Bear

Mouse control, mouse control, hm??? Did we forget it? Maybe Smile
Actually we never consider it, but its not a bad idea at all Smile

About skipping the intro, yes it can be done, with magic ESC button Smile

I had a lot of time working on solution to make it full screen video game,
and now the window mode, for job ?
No, we don't want to implement the politics that games are to be played on your job.
Work, work and nothing but the work on your work Laughing

@ Fost

Sorry for the short time, but very soon there will be a new version of
demo that can be played a little bit longer. Wink


------------------------------------------------------------------------

We asked people for feedback and now we are getting it Smile

From collecting feedback from the players, people who like games,
who make games, we now know what went wrong or what can be made better.

So right now we are in the process of making the new version.

And there will be :

AI opponents ( not to feel alone Smile )
6-7 different arenas ( with different look and characteristics )
single player mode
different add ons ( machine gun , jet pack , very BIG bat ... )
better keyboard mapping ( keypad A and S for jump and bomb , and cursor keys for moving )
and other improvements ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the movie we created during testing the AI's :

AI vs HUMAN
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Free ZoX - Space Arena Reply with quote

Thanks to your comments on ZoX - Space Arena we are finnishing new version of it
ZoX - Space Atrena 2. More about it on our site

www.zoxuniverse.com

To show our gratitude for your time to test and comment , we are giving for
free the ZoX - Space Arena Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took a little bit longer then we expected it, but now it's here :

ZoX Universe - Space Arena 2 .

We took all the comments we got from you,
for our first game and make them happen in the Space Arena 2 Smile






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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Smile

Is there a link to go and try it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it is on our site:

www.zoxuniverse.com

there is a free demo version and it about 23 MB .
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, a big improvement.

One big problem is the installer asking twice about some Ogg drivers. I'd advise against doing anything like that - 99% of people won't know what you're talking about and will just say "no" and then get no music. Install should be quick and painless with the minimum of questions. Either install the files without asking (if appropriate) or use a different sound system like FMOD or BASS.

Not sure if this works commercially on the PC, who is the audience? It's cute and simple, but more of an arcade game than a casual game. That implies a games console to me or a web browser game maybe, but it's hard to sell those. Considering the poor state of PSN and XBLA then WiiWare seems the obvious home, but you'd need to wrestle with the crazy wand to be sure it made sense. It's possible casual PC portals might take it though. I'd love to be proved wrong, let us know if it turns into a runaway PC download success Wink
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