OOA Special weapons?

[Pithlit]

Pllanning to do out of area special weapons like in GC2 or Generals?
or will any weapons you can use in the game have to be on teh current battlemap?

[icarus]

well way back when
moonpod thougt thay could give battlescape an overworld map
we descued orbatal supperwepons and IBCMs but thay whave since decided not to have an overworld map in V1 (but thay will in V2+)

our idea was to have orbatal supperwepons act like the genaral powers in CACG or god powers in AOM

orbatal supperweppons would only work when the satalite is above the horison and might run out of ammo or nead to recharge
IBCMs would be one use only but you can use them whenever

you would have to ajust the orbits of satalites from the overworld map and missle have to be armed and built from citys and bases

of corse whitout a overworld map we cant have eather but thare is always v2 to look forword for

[Pithlit]

I see, but couldn´t it be made, even without a world map?

in the planning/recruit phase you could by these OOAs instead of units (and they would be pretty expansive according to what they do)
And in the mission you could select them from a menu and fire them, after that they have to recharge or are gone, whatever it is.
This way we wouldn´t need an worldmap with nitpicking stuff like arranging the flightpath of a satelite but having a simple point click interface wich does the same job.

For erxample your Orbital laser.
You have bought/build the sat before the mission (in camp mode, maybe it comes availiable a certain amount of mission time after ordered or after a certain amount of world time, whatever there is,
in Skirmish mode you start wih it uncharged. now when it is chared up fully, you can set a target for it via the interface.
When you do so, you see a holo trajectory on the gound, wich projects the flightpath of the sat. when you think its in the right position you can hit the fire button and it burns a 5 sec high power paser beam in the groud (while moving farther on its flightpath)
of course you can change the path if you like, if the target has moved.

Similar methodes would be availiable to all special weapons, but some options would be limited of course, like redirecting the target point of an OOA artillery strike, after you have fired it

[icarus]

you could probably get a WMD in unit buy mode but it would cost a lot of unit points

[Poo Bear]

Yes "special weapons" are being considered (ignore Icarus) the idea on the table is that over time players gain access to special "battle favours" from HQ. These are collected throughout the game and then charge up over time and based on your performance. So if you are doing well (i.e. completing missions) and hold an "orbital strike" award then eventually you will be able to call down death from above. Other possibilities are special reinforcements of elite stormtroopers to save the day. The "voice of the emperor" which temprarily rouses your troops into a battle frenzy. High altitudes air strikes, nuclear strike and chemical attacks are also possibilities and might be useful in ballancing a match.

You should be able to select units that can have these type of attacks anyway, but if you don't then perhaps you can even out the playing field by calling on HQ for help.

[Degraine]

Kind of like Command saying 'Okay, you've done pretty good so far, so we're going to give you some new toys to play with. Don't abuse 'em.' then.

That would discourage turtling tactics that were raised as a possibility of drawing out matches, too. Red Alert 2's superweapons had that exact purpose.

[BloodWarLord]

that HQ favors idea is nice, but wouldn't it be like better if HQ said something like "We have invented a new type of weapon, we are transmitting the data for how to build it now"
that would be pretty nice if they gave u like a nuke or something....haha
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[BluePhoenix]

Why is everyone of the mindset the nuclear weapons are the end all be all answer to every problem in the game? The idea is to win the war, but if you've rendered the entire surface of the planet uninhabitable then is it really a victory? Besides, using a nuclear weapon would blind your own troops, if not kill them with the shockwave. Nuclear weapons are powerful yes, but power always comes at a cost. Personally I wish warfare had never moved beyond swords and such, because back in those days you had to at least see the face of your enemy, and that makes it more difficult to just classify them as unhuman. Warfare (and terrorism for that matter) is too easy as anyone with a working finger can kill people, no skill, discipline or courage required. If the kids at columbine had had no choice but to use a sword or a knife and thereby get their hands dirty and even see the faces of people, and more importantly put themselves at personal risk, that probably would never have happened. But I am ranting.

[icarus]

but it will be fun to see a n00b try to use a nuke in close quarters combat

[BloodWarLord]

[Poo Bear]

[Weeble]

[icarus]

[BloodWarLord]

[BluePhoenix]

Those aren't bad ideas PooBear. Though limiting resources would be a good option if it was a resource gathering game (ie. You would lose so many workers, resource gathering in contaminated areas would be cost prohibitive).
You could also arrange it so that units have to move through certain points to get to a battle field, and if the most direct route is contaminated, you either have to go around (and lose time and give the enemy an advantage) or go through and waste tons of points getting radiation proof vehicles to allow your troops to make it through.

EDIT: Just remember that "affect" is a verb, and "effect" is a noun (like "sound effects")