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SilentDragz



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jollyreaper wrote:
icarus wrote:
yah a mech should have large feet to spread the weight

a tank has the same ground pressure as a man cause its weight is spread around on the tracks


Dude, you spelled every word correctly here. What happened?


LMAO I was just thinking that, I just wish there was an ignore user function, so I wouldn't have to read his/her obnoxiously atrocious spelling/grammar.

EDIT: Oops, I really should read dates on posts before resurrecting 3 month old posts >.<
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I'm going to sound like a real Total annihilation nut case here ( 3 post in a row about it ) but jollly reaper is right even TA kbots use some kind of syntethic musles according to the story.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Rain wrote:
Ok, I'm going to sound like a real Total annihilation nut case here ( 3 post in a row about it )

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

icarus wrote:
quit flaming


Both words spelt correctly again! Astounding.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking for images on the net and I came across this topic and couldn't help but add in my two cents. But, in Metal Gear Solid 2 not only are the "Giant Robots" propelled by artificial muscle (not cloned as someone asked, there's a whole chemical process I read about in Popular Science magazine about how it will be made) but so are the combat suits of the characters and of some special forces type units. If any of you have read Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein (I highly recommend it to any Mecha fan) you will get a good deal of insight into how someone can feasably pilot robotic exoskeletons or "giant robots". Personally, I think that the whole concept of giant robots is unfathomable, there is no reason to have a weapon like that walking around because of it is simply too big, the storage facilities not only for the machines themselves but for the spare parts, weapons, ammo and the machines required to lift them and place them on the robot would be downright astonishing. You could set a giant robot gun on a tank and take it out for a fraction of what the robot would cost there is simply no need for it to be Megazord (that's Power Rangers lingo for you 90's kids) size. Also the concept of close-quarters melee combat between Giant Robots is as unrealistic as it is in modern warfare, if an enemy were to get close enough to the point that you could use a laser sword or whatever you'd hold it back until your buddies can shoot him, and that's in the unlikely chace that you didn't spot the sword guy first and wax him then. Back to Starship Troopers though, powered armor is a much more feasable, economical and realistic approach to mecha actually being in modern warfare, you could spot a gundam-size mecha walking around from forty miles away, call in an airstrike, done deal. But a small unit of powered armor type guys would do the job of several heavily armed platoons while not replacing the tank itself except perhaps by bringing the same caliber of fireworks (think rockets and missiles) on a more mobile platform, they could move faster, farther and carry bigger guns. Now, if there were to be "bipedal tanks" they would be more similar to Metal Gear or some of the Mechs from Battletech because it'd be much cheaper and realistic to mount guns then to build a replica of the human arm to hold one, they'd resemble a tank with legs and not like a pretty Veritech/Valkyrie (that's Robotech/Macross lingo for you 80's kids). Besides tanks these days are already all-terrain because of their treads, the only thing that can stop a modern tank besides a well aimed RPG is either a mountain or a lack of fuel or a broken tread (which is replaced in a matter of minutes) where with a giant robot if it's ankle or knee joint were to crack it'd be done for the rest of the game, probably needing a brand new foot or leg because it's so complex getting a brand new one would be cheaper than having it repaired, end of story, giant robots may look glamorous but it really wouldn't work that way, especially how most of them fly, if you've seen modern jetpacks they can't carry human's much more than a couple dozen feet because it burns so much fuel so fast, a giant mecha would be even more unlikely to be jetting around the battlefield because the even bigger propulsion system would require even more fuel and even if you could make a working prototype for the same cost you could get a dozen helicoptor launched anti-tank missiles, done deal, unfeasable in every platform except for imagination. It would make more sense in shows like Robotech/Macross or Evangelion because the enemy is the same size of the giant robot but it still doesn't take a forty foot robot to hold a gun that kills a forty foot bad guy. I never quite got why they couldn't just use the eva's guns against the angels, or make a gun to shoot the spear's or knives or whatever (how does a knife pierce an angel's armor when a gun doesn't? why not make the bullet out if the stinkin' knife and pump a coupla shots into the thing) but I never really liked Evangelion in the first place anyway, too much whining reminds me of the Emo kids that went to my old high school, like anyone cares that you're sad, get over it, and move on, the rest of us do.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have similar feelings about the 'reality' of mecha warfare. I read Starship troopers back when we were making Gun Metal, and was also struck by the idea of faster lighter powered armour. Rather than a walking tank, it's more like an improvement on the foot soldier - rapid, heavily armoured, heavily armed infantry.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a side note, But there is a very good Mecha based Roguelike out there...

Download site: [url]gearhead.roguelikedevelopment.org[/url]

Forums: [url]ghforum.chaosforge.org[/url]
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